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		<title>By: Jeff Dickey</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-5668</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Dickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 02:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more! &lt;em&gt;Thank you&lt;/em&gt; for pointing that out!

I&#039;m Chief Engineer of a new startup here in Singapore. We were recently looking for a new developer for the team (position is no longer open, sorry). When the CEO and I were discussing what to look for, my very first requirement was &quot;Eloquent fluency and literacy in standard English.&quot; We&#039;re using a tool stack and platform that aren&#039;t widely seen as mainstream here, but to me, that wasn&#039;t the primary need.

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t care&lt;/em&gt; if somebody knows all the intricacies of our toolchain as well as the teams that wrote the tools. &lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t care&lt;/em&gt; if she&#039;s written sixteen systems that each model different pieces of what we&#039;re doing. &lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t care&lt;/em&gt; if he&#039;s the nicest guy you ever had a beer with. If I can&#039;t communicate &lt;em&gt;effectively&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;efficiently&lt;/em&gt; with a team member, then his or her value to the team effort drops &lt;em&gt;catastrophically&lt;/em&gt;.

Realistically, there are only four significant (human) languages in software at the moment: English, Japanese, Russian and Chinese, with most serious developers native to the last three languages scrambling to improve their skills in the first. (Yes, I agree that it&#039;s beyond self-defeating that too many native English speakers are monolingual, but that&#039;s a different rant entirely.) The vast majority of technical documentation that you&#039;re likely to deal with in Southeast Asia or North America is in English (of whatever quality). Therefore, an English-fluent team has a major step up over, say, a Japanese monolingual team.

And in my three-decades-plus in this craft, I have never, &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; seen a team deliver a great product without a common language that all were highly proficient in. Very few even-mediocre products were shipped without such a team behind them. Can anybody point to counterexamples among teams that were not so large and dealing with such long timeframes that they could make effective use of translators?

My point is: given all of this, if you &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; communicating in English (or any other language) to participate in a development team, or in a professional discussion… if you know the language well, and don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;use&lt;/em&gt; it well…

In the name of all that you hold holy, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more! <em>Thank you</em> for pointing that out!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Chief Engineer of a new startup here in Singapore. We were recently looking for a new developer for the team (position is no longer open, sorry). When the CEO and I were discussing what to look for, my very first requirement was &#8220;Eloquent fluency and literacy in standard English.&#8221; We&#8217;re using a tool stack and platform that aren&#8217;t widely seen as mainstream here, but to me, that wasn&#8217;t the primary need.</p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t care</em> if somebody knows all the intricacies of our toolchain as well as the teams that wrote the tools. <em>I don&#8217;t care</em> if she&#8217;s written sixteen systems that each model different pieces of what we&#8217;re doing. <em>I don&#8217;t care</em> if he&#8217;s the nicest guy you ever had a beer with. If I can&#8217;t communicate <em>effectively</em> and <em>efficiently</em> with a team member, then his or her value to the team effort drops <em>catastrophically</em>.</p>
<p>Realistically, there are only four significant (human) languages in software at the moment: English, Japanese, Russian and Chinese, with most serious developers native to the last three languages scrambling to improve their skills in the first. (Yes, I agree that it&#8217;s beyond self-defeating that too many native English speakers are monolingual, but that&#8217;s a different rant entirely.) The vast majority of technical documentation that you&#8217;re likely to deal with in Southeast Asia or North America is in English (of whatever quality). Therefore, an English-fluent team has a major step up over, say, a Japanese monolingual team.</p>
<p>And in my three-decades-plus in this craft, I have never, <em>ever</em> seen a team deliver a great product without a common language that all were highly proficient in. Very few even-mediocre products were shipped without such a team behind them. Can anybody point to counterexamples among teams that were not so large and dealing with such long timeframes that they could make effective use of translators?</p>
<p>My point is: given all of this, if you <em>are</em> communicating in English (or any other language) to participate in a development team, or in a professional discussion… if you know the language well, and don&#8217;t <em>use</em> it well…</p>
<p>In the name of all that you hold holy, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Landers</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-5628</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat Landers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas,

I also have a huge issue with people misspelling jQuery.  Why?  Because as a programmer I would think that you have to pay attention to details.  That&#039;s what syntax forces us to do right? (at least in some cases)

As a former English major it bothers me quite a bit.  Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas,</p>
<p>I also have a huge issue with people misspelling jQuery.  Why?  Because as a programmer I would think that you have to pay attention to details.  That&#8217;s what syntax forces us to do right? (at least in some cases)</p>
<p>As a former English major it bothers me quite a bit.  Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: PhotoshopWarrior</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-5555</link>
		<dc:creator>PhotoshopWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tips on JQuery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tips on JQuery</p>
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		<title>By: Shamim</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-5145</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love stackoverflow too. I think every programmer has to love it most. I have started to write my own web tech blog with some problems i had been through</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love stackoverflow too. I think every programmer has to love it most. I have started to write my own web tech blog with some problems i had been through</p>
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		<title>By: Steph Moreland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph Moreland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE Stack Overflow. I&#039;m a graphic designer who has had to learn a number of different languages over the years and I love that if I really get stuck, I can just ask for some help and there it is. It&#039;s actually helped me to understand some concepts much better because designers and programmers tend to think differently and I find that many examples on tech-heavy sites fly right over my head.
I have to admit that I&#039;ve always typed JQuery, but will now note it next time I have to ask a question. Thanks for the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Stack Overflow. I&#8217;m a graphic designer who has had to learn a number of different languages over the years and I love that if I really get stuck, I can just ask for some help and there it is. It&#8217;s actually helped me to understand some concepts much better because designers and programmers tend to think differently and I find that many examples on tech-heavy sites fly right over my head.<br />
I have to admit that I&#8217;ve always typed JQuery, but will now note it next time I have to ask a question. Thanks for the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$DEITY, &lt;i&gt;yes!&lt;/i&gt; (pumping fist in air)

My &quot;favourite&quot; is the H1B Homework Problem, the kind of completely generic &quot;help me&quot; question that you&#039;d think anybody who&#039;d read the first three chapters of a mediocre &quot;Intro to $LANGUAGE&quot; book should be able to deal with as easily as breathing, and they&#039;re asking for someone to do an &lt;i&gt;entire&lt;/i&gt; application for them that they obviously only barely understand.  Then you look at their email address or whatever and see that they&#039;re actually on some body shop&#039;s payroll.

Now, before you write me off, understand that I&#039;ve run offshore-development groups, in three countries, with people who were (mostly) bright, motivated and working &lt;i&gt;hard&lt;/i&gt; to get out from under Rumsfeld&#039;s Rule; my position has always been that there is no such thing as a stupid question IF you don&#039;t already know the answer AND are willing to put effort into learning.

Self-entitlement and obvious laziness are entirely the wrong attitudes to take when you&#039;re asking for help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$DEITY, <i>yes!</i> (pumping fist in air)</p>
<p>My &#8220;favourite&#8221; is the H1B Homework Problem, the kind of completely generic &#8220;help me&#8221; question that you&#8217;d think anybody who&#8217;d read the first three chapters of a mediocre &#8220;Intro to $LANGUAGE&#8221; book should be able to deal with as easily as breathing, and they&#8217;re asking for someone to do an <i>entire</i> application for them that they obviously only barely understand.  Then you look at their email address or whatever and see that they&#8217;re actually on some body shop&#8217;s payroll.</p>
<p>Now, before you write me off, understand that I&#8217;ve run offshore-development groups, in three countries, with people who were (mostly) bright, motivated and working <i>hard</i> to get out from under Rumsfeld&#8217;s Rule; my position has always been that there is no such thing as a stupid question IF you don&#8217;t already know the answer AND are willing to put effort into learning.</p>
<p>Self-entitlement and obvious laziness are entirely the wrong attitudes to take when you&#8217;re asking for help.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Cutrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Cutrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug has always been extremely helpful with questions I&#039;ve asked him.

The truth of the matter is that a lot of people haven&#039;t quite learned the conventions of coding, and many (I was one of these) will go into the IRC room looking for a quick answer to a slightly complex question.

A lot of people will write these off as &quot;newbies&quot; or &quot;ignorant&quot;, but the truth of the matter is that they are usually asking in order to learn.

For those of us who can help, be careful who you write off.
For those of you who need help, don&#039;t be afraid to ask even a simple question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug has always been extremely helpful with questions I&#8217;ve asked him.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter is that a lot of people haven&#8217;t quite learned the conventions of coding, and many (I was one of these) will go into the IRC room looking for a quick answer to a slightly complex question.</p>
<p>A lot of people will write these off as &#8220;newbies&#8221; or &#8220;ignorant&#8221;, but the truth of the matter is that they are usually asking in order to learn.</p>
<p>For those of us who can help, be careful who you write off.<br />
For those of you who need help, don&#8217;t be afraid to ask even a simple question.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Stack Overflow User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Stack Overflow User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you&#039;re using Stack Overflow, the best thing to do would be to add a comment explaining that it&#039;s &quot;jQuery&quot;, and then edit the question to fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you&#8217;re using Stack Overflow, the best thing to do would be to add a comment explaining that it&#8217;s &#8220;jQuery&#8221;, and then edit the question to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Neiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Neiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are the best! I love it when the question has ASP.NET + HTML, JS, and CSS all in the same code block with &#039;// comments&#039; to explain the parts. Of course, the parts that are pasted might have nothing to do with the question or the problem! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are the best! I love it when the question has ASP.NET + HTML, JS, and CSS all in the same code block with &#8216;// comments&#8217; to explain the parts. Of course, the parts that are pasted might have nothing to do with the question or the problem! :)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-3051</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Take the time to make sure your question makes sense. Complete sentences, clear code examples, and links to a page demonstrating the problem all go a long way in ensuring a quality answer.&quot;

This is probably the most important bit of advice for asking questions on any forum about any programming topic.

There are several things that turn-me-off a question; no code and no demonstration page are the top two!

Another one is when people post server-side code along with their JS... this is quite regular in the ASP.NET+jQuery tags at SO. &quot;Urm, I&#039;m trying to make my partial .NET view slide across the screen like this cewl JQuEry plugin!??&quot; ... it&#039;s just insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Take the time to make sure your question makes sense. Complete sentences, clear code examples, and links to a page demonstrating the problem all go a long way in ensuring a quality answer.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is probably the most important bit of advice for asking questions on any forum about any programming topic.</p>
<p>There are several things that turn-me-off a question; no code and no demonstration page are the top two!</p>
<p>Another one is when people post server-side code along with their JS&#8230; this is quite regular in the ASP.NET+jQuery tags at SO. &#8220;Urm, I&#8217;m trying to make my partial .NET view slide across the screen like this cewl JQuEry plugin!??&#8221; &#8230; it&#8217;s just insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Neiner</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-3050</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Neiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you meant the &quot;jQuery IRC&quot; room, right? :)

I don&#039;t hang out in the chat room nearly enough to have an opinion about the questions. I think in any venue where you can ask questions there will be people who would rather not do the work themselves, and just get code to copy and paste in response to their question. IRC is slightly more relaxed than a Forum or StackOverflow for instance, but its still important not to waste other people&#039;s time until you have spent some of your own time on the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you meant the &#8220;jQuery IRC&#8221; room, right? :)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hang out in the chat room nearly enough to have an opinion about the questions. I think in any venue where you can ask questions there will be people who would rather not do the work themselves, and just get code to copy and paste in response to their question. IRC is slightly more relaxed than a Forum or StackOverflow for instance, but its still important not to waste other people&#8217;s time until you have spent some of your own time on the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Neiner</title>
		<link>http://fuelyourcoding.com/jquery-jquery-and-asking-for-help/comment-page-1/#comment-3049</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Neiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its already like that in my fork... ok, not really ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its already like that in my fork&#8230; ok, not really ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Dietz / Fractastical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Dietz / Fractastical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tips! I&#039;m curious if you also hang out in the JQuery IRC room and if you feel similarly about questions asked there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tips! I&#8217;m curious if you also hang out in the JQuery IRC room and if you feel similarly about questions asked there.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you can suggest they change the name from jquery.js to jQuery.js. 

:)</description>
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<p>:)</p>
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